I'm currently in love with orbitals, and ever since I've seen youtube kids doing them with fire poi, I've been trying to get this move rolling.
WHat is the best setup for doing an orbital with fire poi? I have ball chains and large monkey fists, and I'm wondering if that's going to make the move dificult. Are dogchains better for this move?
WHat is the best setup for doing an orbital with fire poi? I have ball chains and large monkey fists, and I'm wondering if that's going to make the move dificult. Are dogchains better for this move?
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Raleigh
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Re: Trying to do an oribtal with monkey fists
Mon, March 3, 2008 - 4:52 AMi use dogchain and those heavyduty sampo ballbearing swivels from flammaeterna.
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Re: Trying to do an oribtal with monkey fists
Mon, March 3, 2008 - 11:34 AMyou mean a hyperloop? like a glowstringing orbital? ballchain is great, as every link acts as a swivel....the differnce between metal and fabric is that metal slides along itself, so you have to hold a frame with your arms, instead of pulling and letting them lock....you also need to add momentum if you want it to keep going, or you can just let it spin a couple times then come out....
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Re: Trying to do an oribtal with monkey fists
Mon, March 3, 2008 - 11:48 AM -
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Re: Trying to do an oribtal with monkey fists
Mon, March 3, 2008 - 3:28 PMIve found that ball chain sucks for this kind of stuff.. and as a swivel in general. sure every link is a swivel but its not very smooth.. orbitals need a smooth rotation.. Ive also found that ball chain can be kinda difficult to click into place without messing up the rotation. For me dog chain is the way to go! = ] also practice, practice, practice your hyperloops and orbitals with strings.. that will help. -
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Re: Trying to do an oribtal with monkey fists
Mon, March 3, 2008 - 3:59 PMThank you very much! And kudos on the wonderful video :)
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Re: Trying to do an oribtal with monkey fists
Tue, March 4, 2008 - 7:02 AMHey Tank - I've found that an Orbital is a very specific type of hyperloop. You come into it as a wallplane airwrap, but halfway through you take one of your hands and pull it in front of the move (ie away from your body, to the front). You then add tension to the chains, causing a "snapping" feeling as the poi rotate around the chain nexus more quickly than most hyperloops. This is what allows all of the "around the head" type manipulations of the orbital. With an orbital, however, it is necessary to keep pulling the poi apart to prolong the move. For this reason, I feel twisted link is better, precisely because it can slide along itself.
Nick Woolsey has been doing a lot of these in his newer videos - major orbital action with big chunky wicks. -
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Re: Trying to do an oribtal with monkey fists
Tue, March 4, 2008 - 9:43 AMAn excellent tut on poi-ish orbitals (originally a glowstringer move), which also does a great job of distinguishing it from a hyperloop:
www.youtube.com/watch
Woolsey obviously rocks.
I don't try to do this move (much) with ball chain due to the stress it puts on the links. I'm figuring continually doing orbitals with ball chain will greatly increase the chance of chain failure.
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Re: Trying to do an oribtal with monkey fists
Tue, March 4, 2008 - 9:54 AMyeah the few incidences that Ive heard of ball chain breaking are under those conditions.
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