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has anyone outside of minnesota heard of this stuff? it's heavy, but in my opinion just plain better than anything else.....i don't see anyone else using it or hear any mention of it outside of my area though.....so....how has nobody heard of this?
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Re: Byzantine Chain
Mon, April 6, 2009 - 1:49 PMsince this is hand made, it would be very difficult to say that there is a consistent load rating for this chain. Also, do you have a source that makes this is bulk lengths that can give a load rating for different sizes?
This is probably a better question for the Fire Arts Equipment and Safety tribe. -
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Re: Byzantine Chain
Mon, April 6, 2009 - 10:27 PMnot sure on load rating, but honestly i think you deserve a prize if you break as set of these chains when made right. makes ball chain feel like a toy in comparison. i haven't found anywhere online that makes it in the correct gauge/ring diameter, thus far it's all handmade by us. i was "shown the light" by a spinner from Minneapolis. -
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Re: Byzantine Chain
Mon, April 6, 2009 - 10:37 PMThat would be Paul I presume. He brought a set to WildFire. If I remember right they would be amazingly expensive but damn nice. Although a little heavy. Again, this thread really would be better on the fire arts equipment tribe. -
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Re: Byzantine Chain
Mon, April 6, 2009 - 11:07 PMI've snapped a set by hand. The only way to make them "properly" is to do a riveted/welded chain.
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Re: Byzantine Chain
Tue, April 7, 2009 - 7:04 AMAre you talking about this: www.thebeadman.com/byzantine.html ? -
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Re: Byzantine Chain
Wed, April 8, 2009 - 2:17 PMthat is indeed the weave he speaks of,
only a different variation with double the rings seems to works better.
This stuff truly feels like cord/rope when made tightly.
I know Justice has a set with chain maille,
Super Awesome. -
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Re: Byzantine Chain
Wed, April 8, 2009 - 11:46 PMi posted a pic in my tribe photos.....take a look if ya likes
if you look at the pic, you can see it's not double the rings, just smaller rings with a heavier gauge -
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Re: Byzantine Chain
Fri, April 10, 2009 - 10:58 PMI am a manufacturer and a seller of Byzantine Chain Maille Poi Chains. As soon as my website www.burningpassion.com is fully complete we will be selling them on there.
Chain Maille that is made for poi spinning is made differently than most chain maille jewelery. Special attention and much more effort is put into the detail of closing the rings properly to ensure a perfect set of chain maille is made.
This design has been around for a few years in the Minnesota fire community and there have been no issues at all except for one circumstance from someone who was a beginner that tried to make their own set.
I do NOT recommend anyone trying to craft this themselves.
They are a huge step above ball chain for performance. They are much easier to manipulate skillfully for wraps, hyper loops, orbitals, etc.
I will be promoting it shortly at FireDrums and online after that after getting some surprise amazing performers in our community on film performing with them.
Feel free to contact me if you would like more information.
Cheers!
Paul
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Re: Byzantine Chain
Sun, April 19, 2009 - 10:18 PMi have a set of Paul's chains. T, i'll give you $1000 if you can snap them by hand. they kick ass. i agree they are a bit heavy, but i have heavy moonblazes so its ok. -
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Re: Byzantine Chain
Mon, April 20, 2009 - 12:28 AMBring 'em to LA, I could use a grand. -
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Re: Byzantine Chain
Mon, May 4, 2009 - 9:09 PMshould have come to Firedrums! not that i actually have a thousand dollars. but if you'll put up $100, i'll come to LA. -
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Re: Byzantine Chain
Mon, May 4, 2009 - 9:50 PMYeah, sorry work intruded. I was on the phone all weekend cutting a deal for a silly reality show. -
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Re: Byzantine Chain
Mon, May 4, 2009 - 9:55 PMTim- Wish I got to see you out there, my RV had troubles and I never got to go. At least I made use of my weekend getting ready for this summer.
Really? What was the deal? Curious what that might be :) -
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Re: Byzantine Chain
Mon, May 4, 2009 - 9:56 PMEr, second part of that last message of mine was directed at Tedward. What is the reality tv show deal? Is it something that you can tell us about yet? -
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Re: Byzantine Chain
Mon, May 4, 2009 - 10:38 PMPlayboy channel's Foursome. We placed two performers to teach fans to reality contestants.
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