question about oggz

topic posted Sun, November 23, 2008 - 2:41 PM by  Brother Daniel
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so im looking at sets of oggz cause i tried some at a burn a couple months ago and liked them a lot and ive been looking for some new LEDs anyway. they always seem to only be available in sets of one or three. its kind of annoying actually. flowtoys has a poi set but its ridiculously overpriced especially since i already have some colecords. but they seem to have rings for attachment to cords. other sites pictures looked like there was no place to attach the cord to and i dont wanna buy them if thats the case. does anyone else own a set? any recommendations? i just want to make as informed a decision as possible. buying stuff online sucks sometimes and id like to avoid that
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  • Re: question about oggz

    Sun, November 23, 2008 - 3:05 PM
    Basicaly Oggz were designed first as some rad little colour changing light decorations that you can charge and places around your house. They are not designed for spinning and thus come in sets of three and don't have any connector points.

    As you can imagine working out a way to securely connect the Oggz to a string with out obscuring the light would be kind of difficult and probably complicated, this is why they cost more to buy a made up set from flow toys.

    You really only have a few choices as to what you can do if you want the oggz,
    1. Suck it and Buy the flow toys ones
    2. Buy some plain Oggz and work out a system of attachment yourself or
    3. buy the plain Oggz and put them in some thing white sock poi so they show through.

    Those aside i know that YoHo have a really cool set of LED poi that are quite similar to the Oggz if you have a look around for a set.

    • Re: question about oggz

      Sun, November 23, 2008 - 5:30 PM
      I have seen oggz put in some stretchy fishnet type sock so that it still was very easy to see. *shrug* Worth a shot.

      Kerry
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        Re: question about oggz

        Sun, November 23, 2008 - 5:52 PM
        YoHo poi will break in days, don't waste your money. Flowtoys are worth the price! if you are not looking for professional performance quality, however, i would reccomend HoP's glo poi. they are similar to the oggz, but they have attachment points. i have a pair, i found them to be too light, so what i did was pull out the tube containing the LED and batterries, filled the body with water, spread some silicone over the tube cartridge and slid it back in! the tube is water tight from the inside, and there is no reason to ever need to pull it out(actually, i used to have a problem with them falling into the body, pain in the ass to get out again!) they still work fine, and the water makes a cool effect without compromising brightness.
        • Re: question about oggz

          Mon, November 24, 2008 - 7:25 AM
          Sick! I'm totally gonna try this :)
          • Re: question about oggz

            Tue, November 25, 2008 - 2:06 AM
            Oggz in socks is pretty cool. You can easily get creative and add some sort of weight to the socks without disrupting the glow.
            For oggz on leashes you might wanna check out Rainbow Michael's slightly blemished deal. (Rainbow are those flow toys mod or your own?)
            When I was last over at Sean and Prisna's house (flow toys HQ), I got to pressure test some oggz poi by smashing them together. Apparently newer batches have been skimping on the glue... So Sean had worked out a mod that includes adding weight, reinforcing the LED structure, better glue, as well as adding the leash connection point. You might want to check with Flow toys to see if they are offering the new mod yet. www.flowtoys.com

            You may also want to look at Trick Concepts' oggz mod. They use a loop system that orients the recharge points of the oggz facing down the leash, so you are less likely to smash it. www.trickconcepts.com/Set-of-...5C3.aspx

            The point is, everyone mentioned above is putting extra materials and labor into make oggz into quality poi. So unless you think you can do a better job DYI, and somehow get your parts at wholesale without actually buying quantity, you may find out that they really aren't over priced.

            Flowtoys also sells individual modded oggz, so you could use your colecord or whatever.
            www.flowtoys.com/home.php

            I bet that the others also sell them without leashes too, you should inquire.

            As far as the pros and cons of oggs:
            Rechargeable is nice cuz you don't spend a fortune on expensive LR-44 cells, of which the Home of Poi, and I'd assume the Yoho use 3 each. That means every time you party all night you may very well spend $3 to $6 USD, plus tax or shipping for new batts.
            Oggz are squishy if you hit yourself, although it seemed like newer batches are a little harder.
            You really don't want to smash the recharging end, cuz if you can't recharge, you're screwed. Similarly, if you are in the middle of nowhere, say, a vast waste land of gypsum salt, you may have a hard time finding power to recharge with. You'll want to keep the charge station and contacts on the oggz clean, or no chargy!

            I have some HoP glow balls:
            www.homeofpoi.com/shop/list...D-Glow-Poi

            I haven't tried
            Yoho, but from what I've heard, I'd spend the money on Oggs or FlowPoi/Cystalpoi. Sean and Prisna really stand behind their product!

            -Alien Jon
            • Re: question about oggz

              Wed, November 26, 2008 - 1:34 PM
              My experience with YoHos wasn't good. I bought one pair at a local shop. One of the LEDs was broken out of the box. I exchanged it for another set, which had another LED problem. The store offered to give me the two out of those four that worked, but I opted to get my money back. I figured that it spoke to the manufacturing quality.
              • Re: question about oggz

                Sat, January 17, 2009 - 8:47 PM
                I agree that the first modle of the yoho poi were not so good but the new design is really good.
                I have had the same pair for about a year of hard use with no problems.
                • Re: question about oggz

                  Sun, January 18, 2009 - 8:06 PM
                  cool! any details? or a URL with details? Like what batts do they use?

                  good to know these things!
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                    Re: question about oggz

                    Mon, January 19, 2009 - 4:52 AM
                    Assuming this is the second batch, here's a url selling them for as cheap as one poi-ready ogg without charger ($15.95 with sale price)...
                    www.epartyunlimited.com/yoho-m...oi.html

                    Batteries are 6 x AG13. I've never tried them, so I can't say. I do like the feature, though, that you can either have it rotate through colors or select what color you want for the whole spin. If that works, that's a feature I wish I had on my oggz. Can't tell what kind of chain/cord they have, either.
                    • Re: question about oggz

                      Mon, January 19, 2009 - 5:11 AM
                      Sounds about right price wise actually for me they would be cheaper than oggs because you can get them from stores here in Australia where they are a little cheaper and no postage.

                      They don't have rechargeable battery but they do provide an extra set of battery with them when you by them and one set lasts for ages.

                      The new design also has a second colour option to the old one you can chose between:
                      Rainbow chase
                      one fixed colour
                      or fast chase which looks white when still but is actually changing colour really fast so when they move the make rainbow trails (new)

                      They have a cord type chain with swivels but it would be really easy to switch that with a different cord if you wanted to.

    • Re: question about oggz

      Sun, November 23, 2008 - 5:32 PM
      "2. Buy some plain Oggz and work out a system of attachment yourself or
      3. buy the plain Oggz and put them in some thing white sock poi so they show through. "

      I'd like to add:
      4. Get oggz and hang them in those plastic nets that garlic usually comes in. the light shines through, you get sock poi feel and it's a cheap solution (after that first purchse...)
  • Re: question about oggz

    Sun, November 23, 2008 - 5:30 PM
    Actually, I think Oggz were developed for jugglers. they come in sets of three as a basic juggling pack and the extra one for people who juggle more than three or need a replacement.
    • Re: question about oggz

      Sun, November 23, 2008 - 5:40 PM
      The first Oggz i ever saw were egg shaped and marketed as a trendy decorator item.
      www.getoggz.com/GetOggz_Co...t_oggz.html

      Actually if you have a look at the bottom of that page it looks like things have come full circle and they are even mentioning that they could be hacked for use as poi.
      • Re: question about oggz

        Sun, November 23, 2008 - 6:38 PM
        Hunh...

        Maybe they hae to sell them that way for liability reasons or something...
        • Re: question about oggz

          Sun, November 23, 2008 - 7:01 PM
          In Ohio, apparently you can buy oggs at Wal-Mart. They sell them as "vase lights" or something, in the decor section, chargers and all. You have to attach them yourself by punching a couple of holes but they were fairly priced (20 bucks or so for two and a charger, don't quote me on that) and in 17 locations close to you! 18... 19...

          Worth checking out.
        • Re: question about oggz

          Sun, November 23, 2008 - 7:38 PM
          Nah I reckon they were just what they said they are, then some quick thinking poi spinners worked out that they would make cool props.
          All kinds of weird LED decorations were really popular at the time the oggz came out.
          Also the egg shape and size does not really lend it's self to juggling that well.

          Though i do know there are a few sets of LED juggling balls around these days that work around a similar design as the oggz.
          • Re: question about oggz

            Sun, November 23, 2008 - 8:05 PM
            yeah i tried a few places but no one was carrying them. the closest wal-mart is like thirty to forty five minutes away (one of the things i like about city living) and its hard to find the time... plus i try to avoid shopping there. guess i should look harder. thanks for all the feedback, by the way, guys.
  • Re: question about oggz

    Mon, November 24, 2008 - 6:47 PM
    does anybody sell rechargeable oggs with ball chain... I've been looking around for a gift for a friend... but she wants them to be as much like her fire poi as possible.
    • Re: question about oggz

      Tue, November 25, 2008 - 9:33 AM
      one thing about flowtoys to be wary of - I got a set of flow poi but 1 was missing the cap, making them useless! I got a reply from someone named Priasna pretty much saying oh well - feel free to buy 1 more on our website for $2 (plus $10 shipping!). It was supposed to come with 2 in the first place!
      • Re: question about oggz

        Tue, November 25, 2008 - 2:53 PM
        Thats strange, I had a great time dealing with them. My package was delaied beacuse of the postal service and they tracked it down for me.
        Are you sure you made it clear that the flow poi arrived missing a Cap rather than it went missing after it arrived? could it have been a miss understanding?
        • Re: question about oggz

          Wed, November 26, 2008 - 1:14 AM
          Yeah Rushty, that sounds highly uncharacteristic of Prisna. Could it be a miss understanding? I'd get back in touch with her!
          • Re: question about oggz

            Thu, December 4, 2008 - 3:54 PM
            I was about to get all defensive about my post...

            It took me like an hour to find it, but I found the original messages that we sent back & forth... and um... actually, I don't think I was very clear in my message to them that one of the flow poi arrived without the cap. I focused more on the shipping price for getting a new one, so the misunderstanding is just as much my fault.

            Sorry guys - my bad. Don't base any decisions on what I said before.

            Oh well - I'm not going to get back in touch & bug them about it now - this was like 6 months ago. Or maybe I will - my order was like $200+ & we're talking about a $2 item here!

            Sorry again - I don't mean to flame where it's not deserved. Weird how the memory works.
    • Re: question about oggz

      Tue, November 25, 2008 - 9:50 AM
      Hey there I.M

      I can sell you some oggs with size 15 ball chain, this is also what I use for performance because of the smooth feeling of the chain.

      You can see them here www.cosmicfiredance.com/store/...ed-poi/

      I will also offer the $45 dollar option for the blems, slight cosmetic, very slight, like something that would happen in the first few weeks anyway

      Let me know, you can just send me a personal message if need be.

  • Re: question about oggz

    Tue, January 13, 2009 - 2:33 PM
    kinda late, but info nonetheless:
    i've purchased my oggs, complete with fixtures/cords where i took my beginner poi lessons. www.firegroove.com/Shop_Poi.htm
    if you have a need for oggz single, or oggz without cords, just ask... they may work with you on that.

    note: oggz are inherently delicate!!! i now avoid practicing with them, and save them instead for performance or night-time play. i have bopped them on a coffee table or myself without much initial harm... but do that enough and the light fixture inside works itself loose, sometimes only enough so that the contact prongs don't stick out enough to work on the recharging stand.

    that unwanted third ogg might actually turn out to be a welcome backup! (i'm on my second-and-a-half pair now... oops) another tip: before acquiescing to the inevitable pleas from others to 'try' them, mention how much they cost and that they would be responsible for buying them if broken. that usually changes their mind. (i'm sure i had help breaking some of my old ones.)

    fyi, i'm editing my list of tribes, so will appear as unsubscribed shortly, but i will sign out like this instead...
    :)*
    spark*l
    people.tribe.net/5234f615-...40ef86c086
  • Re: question about oggz

    Mon, January 19, 2009 - 10:42 AM
    ok i haven't read all the way though this thread but i own my own oggz poi that i made myself. its really simple.
    I've used oggz in the past and kept having to reglue them when the battery packs fell out. so this mod fixes that problem.

    I bought the 3 pack at wal mart for $20. the first thing i did was pop the battery packs out. then i punched holes one ether side. Next installed two grommets from on both sides to reinforce the hole and keep the oggz from ripping. i did this toward the bottom just like the trick concepts version. Run your cord or what ever your going to use the put the battery packs back in. I didn't bother gluing it back down, i haven't found any real need to. in fact i've recently started removing the batter packs while the recharge and i still have a good set of practice poi.

    I have several set of these and have been using the originals for about 8 months now and the still work great.

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